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Sheriff · Jun 09, 2006, 07:25 PM // 19:25

Hi,

I was wondering if it's worthwhile to wear one single piece of Knight's armor for the Damage Reduction.

Damage Reduction is nice, but, on the other hand, Knight's armor does have -20 AL per piece than, for example, Sentinel armor.

What's everyone's opinion on this?

TIA!

remmeh · Jun 09, 2006, 07:44 PM // 19:44

well knight's damage reduction is global. one piece gives you a global -2 from attacks. while the point you raised about the decreased armor vs. sentinel's or gladiator's is true, you can minimize the effect of this by wearing a piece of knights on a hitbox that is less likely to be hit, say, the gloves or the boots.

and that is why you see so many people with knights' boots.

Zui · Jun 09, 2006, 07:52 PM // 19:52

Go for boots. That way if you ever decide to use a hammer you can use stonefist gloves.

-2 global recudtion is very worth it. You only have -20 al against elemental. Not really that big of a deal. Your AL vs physical is still the same. Your boots will only have a 12.5% chance of getting hit.

remmeh · Jun 09, 2006, 07:57 PM // 19:57

[QUOTE=Zui]Go for boots. That way if you ever decide to use a hammer you can use stonefist gloves.
[QUOTE]

ha. i forgot about stonefist. i'm an axe man

SnipiousMax · Jun 09, 2006, 08:20 PM // 20:20

^^^^ TBH, you'd be at a disadvantage if you didn't use a piece of knights.

Dusk Banewalker · Jun 09, 2006, 09:33 PM // 21:33

Well, I bought my set of 15k kurzick, including some knights boots, but I've heard rumours that canthan knights isnt global - can any1 prove or disprove this?

Mr.Pickle · Jun 10, 2006, 02:28 AM // 02:28

Does anyone have tested example that knights would be choice in cases using sentinal armor. I can see the benefit with other armor but the lower overall al vs sentinal seems not as much of advantage.

Zui · Jun 10, 2006, 03:56 AM // 03:56

@Pickle

There's a damage caculator utility at the main page of Guru, it's relatively accurate.

Using Knights boots will mean you have a 12.5% chance to get hit there. That's one in 8 hits. On those other 7 hits you're getting a -2 global reduction, in addition to the + armor against elemental. You also need to consider that most damge is from melee sources, or is armor ignoring. The -20 against elemental damage is really not an issue, especaily since how often do you expect to take big damage from a spell that factors all into your AL on a piece of armor that has a 1 in 8 chance to be struck. You're really going to get milage out of Knights boots compared to sentinals boots, especialy since armor becomes less effective the more you add(sortof like attribute points into many skills past 12).

Ventius Hozza · Jun 10, 2006, 09:40 AM // 09:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dusk Banewalker

Well, I bought my set of 15k kurzick, including some knights boots, but I've heard rumours that canthan knights isnt global - can any1 prove or disprove this?

1) I think I've seen a thread about this on possible GwO or some other fansite, sorry forget the name I'll post if i find it. It disproved this theory, so canthan = tyrian.

2) I wouldn't have thought that Anet would change it just for the different campaign, seems a bit... odd?

Yeah I would go for "All knights armor, whether Canthan or Tyrian gives a global damage reduction"

Hidden in the Mist · Jun 10, 2006, 04:24 PM // 16:24

Going full Knight's armor is just plain stupid, you only need 1 piece of armor to get the -2 damage mod. Any more is just a waste.

Lestat Requiem · Jun 10, 2006, 05:03 PM // 17:03

I have kurzick knight boots, i tryed lightning orb test at the lightning master, im taking 74 with them, and 76 wiout them... So yes canthan boots bonus is global.

Mr.Pickle · Jun 12, 2006, 02:01 AM // 02:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zui

@Pickle

There's a damage caculator utility at the main page of Guru, it's relatively accurate.

Using Knights boots will mean you have a 12.5% chance to get hit there. That's one in 8 hits. On those other 7 hits you're getting a -2 global reduction, in addition to the + armor against elemental. You also need to consider that most damge is from melee sources, or is armor ignoring. The -20 against elemental damage is really not an issue, especaily since how often do you expect to take big damage from a spell that factors all into your AL on a piece of armor that has a 1 in 8 chance to be struck. You're really going to get milage out of Knights boots compared to sentinals boots, especialy since armor becomes less effective the more you add(sortof like attribute points into many skills past 12).

I recently tested sentinal armor against lightning.

Lightning orb
w/o knight boot ~69 dmg
w/ knight boot ~67 dmg

Thank You

Undead Preacher · Jun 12, 2006, 04:21 AM // 04:21

978% worth it....

If your wearing Tyria armor I would say go with the 15k Ascolon Helm for the -2 universal... or boots.... In Cantha its nice cuz you can get any skin with any stats!